{"id":290,"date":"2006-10-23T03:49:00","date_gmt":"2006-10-23T11:49:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/pierrejoris.com\/blog\/?p=290"},"modified":"2006-10-23T03:49:00","modified_gmt":"2006-10-23T11:49:00","slug":"pastior-prize-interview","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/pierrejoris.com\/blog\/pastior-prize-interview\/","title":{"rendered":"Pastior Prize &amp; Interview"},"content":{"rendered":"<div style=\"text-align: center;\"><a onblur=\"try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}\" href=\"http:\/\/photos1.blogger.com\/blogger2\/3504\/1589\/1600\/waldrop_pastior.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;\" data-src=\"http:\/\/photos1.blogger.com\/blogger2\/3504\/1589\/400\/waldrop_pastior.jpg\" alt=\"\" border=\"0\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" class=\"lazyload\" \/><\/a><span style=\"font-size:78%;\">Rosmarie Waldrop &#038; Oskar Pastior<\/span><\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div style=\"text-align: justify;\">Oskar Pastior (see my post of <a href=\"http:\/\/pjoris.blogspot.com\/2006\/10\/oskar-pastior-1927-2006.html\">6 October 2006<\/a>) was posthumously awarded the B\u00fcchner Prize this past weekend. On the occasion the German paper <span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">Die Welt<\/span> reprinted an interview with Pastior which you can read in full <a href=\"http:\/\/www.welt.de\/data\/2006\/10\/23\/1082178.http:\/\/beta.blogger.com\/img\/gl.link.gifhtml\">here<\/a>. Below, a few excerpts, all too rapidly translated by yours truly:<\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<div style=\"text-align: justify;\"><b>WELT.de:<\/b> How did you become an experimental poet?<\/p>\n<p><b>Oskar Pastior:<\/b> That is related to the relative multilinguism with which we grew up and learned to think in Siebenb\u00fcrgen. Besides the mother tongue we learned to think through the other languages; what do the Rumanians, or the Hungarians or the ideologues \u2014 the latter are indeed a special human species \u2014 hear in what I am saying?<\/p>\n<p><b>WELT.de:<\/b> So did your poetry also arise from a sceptical stance toward language?<\/p>\n<p><b>Pastior:<\/b> Yes. It turns sceptical nolens volens. Especially when one had the experience of a world completely shattering in 1944\/1945. Shattered also a whole range of cocnepts that had seemed completely solid.<\/p>\n<p><b>WELT:<\/b> How is that caesura mirrored in your work?<\/p>\n<p><b>Pastior:<\/b> The whole of my work is tributary to those life experiences. I don&#8217;t know if whithout them there would have been a life&#8217;s work. If I would have wanted to write. Or what would have happened if I hadn&#8217;t been deported at seventeen, but instead had had to enlist in the army and been killed in the war.<\/p>\n<p><b>WELT.de:<\/b> Your deportation to the Soviet Union in 1945 was a terrible experience \u2014 as well as your salvation.<\/p>\n<p><b>Pastior:<\/b> That&#8217;s it. It is Stalin who decreed that the Germans from Romania, Hungary, Yugoslavia and Chekoslovakia be deported, for forced labor. We were chosen as germans, not as Romanians. And so if here I am called a poet of romanian descent, then they rob me of those five years that I spent there in the Ukrane, also as the recognition of collective guilt. And we were chosen because we were german, not romanian.  I helped pay off that guilt. That&#8217;s how I experienced it.<\/p>\n<p>&#8230;..<\/p>\n<p><b>WELT.de:<\/b> Isn&#8217;t it a refiguration of language that interests you? A refiguration of language and thus also of our expectations?<\/p>\n<p><b>Pastior:<\/b> That too. There&#8217;s also the problem that our European languages are in something like a pre-Newtonian state. Our language cannot realize the insights of modern physics, as it is still caught in the subject \/ object opposition.<\/p>\n<p><b>WELT.de:<\/b> Does language hobble along or is it completely stuck?<\/p>\n<p><b>Pastior:<\/b> It hobbles along. What matters to me is that poems should <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">teach<\/span> language. What syntax do I have to use to be able to think transitively and intransitively all at once? The realisation that light is both wave and particle cannot be reconciliated and unified via a dialectics \u00e0 la Brecht. It has to be shown, but how do you show simultaneity? <\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Rosmarie Waldrop &#038; Oskar Pastior Oskar Pastior (see my post of 6 October 2006) was posthumously awarded the B\u00fcchner Prize this past weekend. 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