{"id":133,"date":"2006-03-11T09:24:00","date_gmt":"2006-03-11T17:24:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/pierrejoris.com\/blog\/?p=133"},"modified":"2006-03-11T09:24:00","modified_gmt":"2006-03-11T17:24:00","slug":"general-translators-unvegetarian-delight","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/pierrejoris.com\/blog\/general-translators-unvegetarian-delight\/","title":{"rendered":"General Translator&#039;s Unvegetarian Delight"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img decoding=\"async\" data-src=\"http:\/\/www.rahoi.com\/images\/blog\/menu\/stanzadayoff.jpg\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" class=\"lazyload\" \/><\/p>\n<div style=\"text-align: justify;\">A wonderful comic instance of menu translation was just forwarded me, &#038; you can check the whole thing out <a href=\"http:\/\/www.rahoi.com\/2006\/03\/may-i-take-your-order.php\">here<\/a>. It&#8217;s a very large Chinese menu, so I&#8217;ll only quote a couple items, plus one of the respondents analysis of the translation of a specific item. Of course we, or at least I, couldn&#8217;t do 1\/100 as well, trying to translate my breakfast menu into Chinese&#8230; Wondering if one could write a sort of reverse piece to what Charles Bernstein did a few years back with the emails &amp; letters from his Chinese translator.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div style=\"text-align: justify;\"><\/div>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" data-src=\"http:\/\/www.rahoi.com\/images\/blog\/menu\/goodtoeatmtn.jpg\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" class=\"lazyload\" \/><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" data-src=\"http:\/\/www.rahoi.com\/images\/blog\/menu\/fryking.jpg\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" class=\"lazyload\" \/><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" data-src=\"http:\/\/www.rahoi.com\/images\/blog\/menu\/cucumberhoof.jpg\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" class=\"lazyload\" \/><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<blockquote><p><img decoding=\"async\" data-src=\"http:\/\/www.rahoi.com\/images\/blog\/menu\/bigchunk.jpg\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" class=\"lazyload\" \/><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The actual menu starts with a range of other delightful items such as &#8220;Cowboy leg&#8221; and the like. Check it out for yourselves. Here is one of the reader&#8217;s letters, from someone \u2014 though anonymous \u2014 who seems to know:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Oh, this is so not made up. I&#8217;ve travelled to China for 20 years and this is TYPICAL, though I must admit it&#8217;s a classic example. If you read Chinese (as the previous commenter clearly doesn&#8217;t), you can see exactly how each of the errors was made. They&#8217;re all perfectly logical, even if the result is unintentionally hilarious.<\/p>\n<p>Take #1313, &#8220;Benumbed hot vegetables fries fuck silk.&#8221; It should read &#8220;Hot and spicy garlic greens stir-fried with shredded dried tofu.&#8221; However, the mangled version above is not as mangled as it seems: it&#8217;s a literal word-by-word translation, with some cases where the translator chose the wrong one of two meanings of a word:<\/p>\n<p>First two characters: &#8220;ma la&#8221; meaning hot and spicy, but literally &#8220;numbingly spicy&#8221; &#8212; it means a kind of Sichuan spice that mixes chilies with Sichuan peppercorn or prickly ash. The latter tends to numb the mouth. &#8220;Benumbed hot&#8221; is a decent, if ungrammatical, literal translation.<\/p>\n<p>Next two: &#8220;jiu cai,&#8221; the top greens of a fragrant-flowering garlic. There&#8217;s no good English translation, so &#8220;vegetables&#8221; is just fine.<\/p>\n<p>Next one: &#8220;chao,&#8221; meaning stir-fried, quite reasonably rendered as &#8220;fries&#8221; (should be &#8220;fried,&#8221; but that&#8217;s a distinction English makes and Chinese doesn&#8217;t).<\/p>\n<p>Finally: &#8220;gan si&#8221; meaning shredded dried tofu, but literally translated as &#8220;dry silk.&#8221; The problem here is that the word &#8220;gan&#8221; means both &#8220;to dry&#8221; and &#8220;to do,&#8221; and the latter meaning has come to mean &#8220;to fuck.&#8221; Unfortunately, the recent proliferation of Colloquial English dictionaries in China means people choose the vulgar translation way too often, on the grounds that it&#8217;s colloquial. Last summer I was in a spiffy modern supermarket in Taiyuan whose dried-foods aisle was helpfully labeled &#8220;Assorted Fuck.&#8221; The word &#8220;si&#8221; meaning &#8220;silk floss&#8221; is used in cooking to refer to anything that&#8217;s been julienned &#8212; very thin pommes frites are sold as &#8220;potato silk,&#8221; for instance. The fact that it&#8217;s tofu is just understood (sheets of dried tofu shredded into julienne) &#8212; if it were dried anything else it would say so.<\/p>\n<p>See?<\/p>\n<p>Best wishes from an anonymous professor of China studies \ud83d\ude42<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A wonderful comic instance of menu translation was just forwarded me, &#038; you can check the whole thing out here. It&#8217;s a very large Chinese menu, so I&#8217;ll only quote a couple items, plus&#46;&#46;&#46;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-133","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/pierrejoris.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/133","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/pierrejoris.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/pierrejoris.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/pierrejoris.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/pierrejoris.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=133"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/pierrejoris.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/133\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/pierrejoris.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=133"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/pierrejoris.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=133"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/pierrejoris.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=133"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}